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Advice on violin authentication & certification

We advise owners of fine instruments and bows on existing documentation, whether further certification is worthwhile, and which recognised specialist to approach. We do not issue certificates of authenticity ourselves.

Pedro Silva and Ariel Lang discussing an instrument certification
We advise
On the route
Documentation, the right expert, the sequence
Independance
No referal fee
Experts are paid by you directly
Fee
Case by case
Quoted before we start. The expert is paid by you, direct.
Location
49 Little Britain
EC1A 7BH, London, by appointment
Get in touch

Tell us about the instrument

A label bearing the name Stradivari, Guarneri, Amati or another well-known maker is not, by itself, evidence of authorship. Instruments carrying such labels are extremely common. If the label is the only reason for your enquiry, this service is unlikely to be appropriate.
Thank you for your enquiry. We'll reply within one working day. If it's urgent, call 0330 133 4225.
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Call the workshop
A short conversation usually settles whether certification is worth pursuing.
Mon-Fri, 10am-5pm
Book a drop-off
Photographs are a good start. Front, back, scroll, ribs and the label if there is one.
Visit
49 Little Britain
EC1A 7BH London

by appointment
Certificates

The authority behind the certificate matters

There is no single licensing body for violin expertise. A certificate is a written opinion, and its significance depends on the authority of the person who issues it. Expertise is highly specific. An authority whose opinion carries considerable weight for one maker, school or period may not be the appropriate person for another. Choosing the right expert is therefore an important part of the certification process. Approaching an unsuitable or unrecognised source can add little to an instrument's standing and, in some circumstances, make a later sale more complicated. Our role is to advise on that process before unnecessary time or expense is incurred.

This service is intended for instruments where there is a credible basis for specialist examination. A maker's label alone is not such a basis.

ServiceFeeNotes
Certification adviceQuoted case by caseThe expert's own fee is paid by you, direct to them

A certificate from a source the market does not recognise may add very little, and can create questions that later need resolving. Choosing the appropriate specialist at the outset is therefore an important part of the process.

The process

What we do

StepWhat it involvesNotes
Review the existing documentationExisting paperworkCertificates, receipts, letters, old photographs, family history
Assess the instrumentOn the benchCondition, past restoration and internal consistency, with imaging where it helps
Identify the right expertRecognised authority by the marketAuthority is specific to maker, school and period, and rarely interchangeable
Handle the approachIntroduction and logisticsSubmission and paperwork once an opinion is given
Consider whether certification is worthwhileOften the answerNot every instrument benefits from further certification. We only undertake advisory work where there is a reasonable basis for specialist examination and where the resulting documentation could materially matter.

We take no commission or referral fee from any expert. You pay them directly, and we have no financial interest in the outcome.

MyLuthier London

MyLuthier regularly handles fine contemporary and antique instruments where certification, provenance and previous expert opinion form an important part of their documentation and value. Our role here is not to replace the specialist authenticator, but to understand when that expertise is needed, which authority is appropriate, and how the instrument should be presented to them.

Where we arrange a referral, we remain independent of the expert's conclusion and receive no commission or referral fee.

What players say
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Labels

A label is not an attribution

A label is one of the least reliable indicators of who made a violin.

For more than a century, workshops in Germany, France, Bohemia and elsewhere routinely produced instruments bearing facsimile labels of Stradivari, Guarneri, Amati and other celebrated makers. These instruments were generally sold openly as models or copies, and the presence of such a label does not imply that the instrument was made by the person named on it.

This does not mean that the instrument is without quality or value. Many workshop and trade instruments are very good in their own right.
Authorship is established by examining the instrument itself: its model, construction, materials, workmanship and varnish, considered alongside any reliable documentary evidence. A label alone proves very little.

If a famous label is the only indication you have of an important attribution, specialist certification is unlikely to be the appropriate first step.

Questions

Authentication questions

How do I get a violin authenticated?

The instrument is submitted to a recognised expert for that maker and period, who examines it and, if satisfied, issues a written certificate. The difficulty is knowing which expert to approach and whether it is worth doing at all. That is where we advise. We do not issue certificates ourselves.

Do you issue certificates of authenticity?

We advise on the route to certification and handle the approach, but the opinion must come from the recognised expert for that maker, school or period. We express no view on authorship at any point.

Who can issue a certificate of authenticity?

There is no register and no licensing body, so in principle anyone can write one. In practice only a small number of names carry weight with buyers, auction houses and insurers, and authority is specific: an expert on Cremonese making has no particular standing on French bows.

My violin has a Stradivarius label. What does that mean?

Almost certainly that it is a copy, and openly sold as one. Using a famous maker's label was standard trade practice in German, French and Czech workshops for well over a century. Some of those instruments are good and worth having. The label simply is not evidence either way, and an expert looks at it last.

How much does certification cost?

The expert sets their own fee, and it varies widely with the maker and the value involved. You pay them directly. We take no commission or referral fee and have no financial interest in the outcome. Our own advisory fee is quoted case by case before anything starts.

How long does certification take?

Weeks to months, and it depends entirely on the expert. Some see instruments in person only at particular times of year, and some are booked well ahead. We will give you a realistic expectation before you commit to anything.

Is a condition report the same thing?

No. A condition report documents an instrument's physical state and expresses no view on who made it.

What if the expert disagrees with the label?

An expert's conclusion may differ from the label, an earlier certificate or what you were told when you bought the instrument. We cannot guarantee the outcome of a referral, and our advice is independent of the conclusion reached.

Will you look at any instrument?

We are happy to review initial photographs, but this service is intended for instruments and bows where there is a credible reason to believe formal certification may have material value. In many cases we can establish from the information provided that specialist certification would not be proportionate, and we will tell you that before any paid work begins.